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    Very interesting and enjoyable post…made me laugh out loud at a couple of points!!

     

     

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    Good stuff, those bumpers worked out a treat, even if one did fail, excellent first effort.  I didn’t understand the part about the stick welder and the microwave but it sounded like a story that could end up on the local news.  Do carry on, very entertaining.

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    Thanks guys. Yeah the front bumper is heavy, 231 grams. A full sized version comes out at 219kg!

    We’ve done much worse things with microwave transformers and survived. Not many of the transformers did though…

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    Small bumper update.

    After the front bumper fell off I realised it needed changing. It was too wide and square, stopping the front tires from getting bite onto rocks.

    I spent some time thinking about what I actually wanted out of the bumper. I don’t really like the majority of bumpers out there both 1/10th and full sized, they’re very deep and chunky and I feel you lose the front end in it. I wanted something to give some protection yet allow the Defender design features to come through.

    I knew I wanted to chamfer the edges but I also wanted a bar over the grill. I decided I couldn’t weld neatly enough for that so I drilled and counter bored some holes for the bar to receive a plug weld underneath.

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    It’s a nice interference fit.

    Now I had to bend the bar…

    I have 4mm and 6mm steel round, 4mm is too small, it looks weak so 6mm it is.

    Which was a little hard to bend neatly.

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    And I still got it wrong the first time.

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    But I got there in the end.

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    At this point I still wasn’t 100% on how I was going to shape it, so I slept on it.

    The next day I found some good reference images and decided to just cut away the underside and leave it square on top.

    I cut the majority of material away with the angle grinder and finished on the belt/disc sander which took a looong time.

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    And with the bar.

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    I think it’s going to look the part, just need to weld the tabs back on tomorrow and paint it again.

    I’ve also been making a few camber gauges for real cars so not had too much time to work on this or practice welding but hopefully I can get it all sorted for Cow and Calf next Saturday.

    Oh, I also fitted a new 20kg servo, the 15kg one was struggling with the weight of this thing.

    Thanks for reading, I think I’ll make some rock sliders next and look into making a bender for cage making.

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    So, I didn’t manage to get the bumper back on just yet, I can’t weld in the shed and it’s been raining the past few days.

    I did however get on with making a rod bender.

    Using the vice, vice grips and a spanner wasn’t really a good idea. It bent the rod sure, but not neatly or consistently, it also left gouge marks from the vice jaws.

    Like everything in this thread, I didn’t want to just buy a rod bender. They’re expensive and at the moment, I only need it for one job, once the cage is made I wont need it till I want to make another cage.

    So I asked what people had done on Facebook and someone gave me this picture.

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    Now this is my kind of home made tool, 5 parts and 4 holes…

    I had a piece of 50×8 flat, same stuff I made the skid plate out of, and someone gave me a weight lifting bar which I thought would just be steel…

    This thing:

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    Which I cut a 16″ piece off.

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    Turns out to be a 1″ cast iron bar…  Fun fact, Chronos sell 6″ pieces of this for £14, making this handle worth about £40… Oops.

    Anyway, I’m writing this post as even though it’s not strictly scale RC, it is related and was one of the largest and more interesting drilling ops I’ve done so far, so some people may find it interesting. If not, I apologise and promise ordinary RC content will continue soon.

    So I needed to put two holes through this bar, two 8mm holes…

    I decided to use this crappy X, Y table I got from Ebay. Not really had the chance to use this for anything useful, so we’ll see how accurate it can be…

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    Now it needed clamping. I don’t have clamps for these T slots that’ll hold something like this so I made one out of scrap.

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    Plenty of hold down force.

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    Easy, now onto the harder part.

    The plan was to find the centre of the bar, and use the markings on the hand wheel to advance onto the second hole.

    To find the centre I used an edge finder.

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    With which I found the edge of the bar. The edge finder has a 6mm tip and the bar is 25.37mm in diameter.

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    To move the table to the centre I measured the dovetail in the axis I wanted to move with calipers.

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    Then advanced the table 15.68mm, putting me on centre.

    I used a crappy spotting drill to start the hole and punched all the way through with a 4mm split point (If you can get your smaller drill sizes in split point, do, they’re so much nicer to use).

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    I then used the table hand wheel to advance 14mm, giving me 6mm between the pins, which should allow up to 5mm rod to be bent without too much slop.

    These hand wheel marking leave a lot to be desired…

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    You know, like actual markings…

    Also, it advances 1.25mm per rotation, so its a bit awkward.

    Shot of the spot drilled starter hole.

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    Unfortunately, I could not get the 8mm drill into the chuck, my workpiece was in the way. My drill only has 50mm travel on the quill so jobs like this need to be thought out more than I’m currently doing.

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    Anyway, I decided to leave the bar clamped to the table to keep the holes square to the quill travel and just swing the drill table out the way and prop it up on some wood. Not a good idea, as the bar’s so heavy it just wanted to tip. Also, the T slots are about 8mm, so I ran a real chance of drilling through the table once through.

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    Shit…

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    Anyway…

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    I’m sure the error is me, but I wouldn’t expect an accurate result from a table like this. It is a bit more out than I expected mind.

    Now the plate. This was easier, I centre punched and arbitrary spot and set my calipers to 14mm and marked a second hole over some marker pen and centre punched it, we’ll see how much more accurate the manual method can be for flat stuff.

    I put it in the vice for something to hold onto and did the same op, 4mm then 8mm.

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    Aaaaaand….

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    That’s within the repeat-ability of the calipers so I’m calling that dead nuts… sorry I’m metric, I mean spot on…

    And it doesn’t even really matter for this…

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    Now the pins. I’m lucky to have a local industrial fastener suppler with a public counter so I can get nearly everything including hardened ground dowel pins.

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    8mm Dia and there’s 2×50, 1×40 and 2×20, thought I’d get some spares just in case.

    These, plus 20 M3 cap heads cost less than a fiver, I think the pins were about £2.50, which is all I have invested in this tool.

    They took some heat and ‘persuasion’ to go in (probably my 8mm drill isn’t really 8mm anymore.) but it came together eventually.

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    And it works spot on, had to nip to B&Q for some 5mm rod to test it.

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    It’s gonna take some practice to keep everything flat and it fits in my vice but there’s not really enough room to do any bending around the vice but it works and I’m happy, maybe now I can stop putting off the cage fab and get on with it…

    Anyway, apologies that no RC cars featured in this post. It’s about as close to real machining as I can get in the shed without any real machine tools so it might be useful for someone.

    Thanks for reading.

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    Part something or other: New link design, snow storm and video

    So I got the bumper back on

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    Not sure on the hoop, I’m thinking it’s a bit too high. Its just press fitted in at the moment so I can change that whenever.

    I wanted to test it before painting this time as well, just to make sure the welds held up and it didn’t have any clearance issues.

    I also thought up a new idea on links. I have a few metres of 6mm steel rod and since I’ve decided on 5mm for the cage, I had to come up with a use for it. I wanted to make links and ideally, I’d turn down a portion at either end to 4mm on a lathe and thread for M4, but again, I don’t have a lathe. But I do now have a welder…

    I figured I could drill into the ends of the rod, then cross drill through those holes, insert a small piece of thread rod and plug weld the cross holes. I did a quick concept for the front steering arm, ground the weld buildup down with a combination of a belt sander and drill and gave it a polish. I think it turned out great, although I’ll most likely go for a painted finish to hold back rust.

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    I’m going to do all the links on the car with this method and I’ll document the process in a subsequent post. The original link with short rod ends weighed in at 11g and the new one with long rod ends 24g, I like weight so I’m doing the whole truck but I think just lower links might be a worthy upgrade for most trucks.

    Anyway, with the new bumper and new link installed, it was almost time for Cow and Calf again.

    Before viewing these pictures, remember this is an hour and a half drive for me, once I was there I was going out rain or shine…

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    Gooder place as any to stop for a sarnie.

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    Smaller turnout than last time for some reason…

    Meet lasted from about 10 till half 1, then this greeted me leaving the car park after everyone went home.

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    Couldn’t make it up…

    The car did great though, other than an intermittent power stutter that seems to be getting worse, not sure if its the motor or ESC so I’ll probably change both next. The bumper has reduced entry angle a bit, which made some climbs harder that others weren’t struggling with, I may sweep it back towards the edges, not sure yet. New link did fine, wasn’t expecting much else.

    The only unfortunate casualty was the windscreen.

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    So I’ll be on the lookout for a replacement at some point.

    The next day, I took a colleague out with the car and a camera. He has both an interest in models and an interest in learning a bit about camera work so I hooked him up with a manual camera and took him up the moors and asked him to film for me. Bear in mind he’s never really filmed anything before, never used a manual camera and had me shouting technical jargon at him from afar I think he did pretty good.

    Anyway, please enjoy seven and a half slow minutes of a completely deflated front left…

    I hate trying to film a drive by myself, it’s nice to have someone do it for you.

    I have a tire problem, the front left seems to have a leak where the weight of the car deflates it but the springy-ness of the rubber isn’t enough to draw air back in. Going to have to try and fix it this week, its shrinking even more in the cold and hampering performance…

    I apologise immediately for that very crudely disguised joke… That’s it for now, when it dries up and I can weld outside I’ll make the links, even if just to put off cage making for a bit longer…

    Thanks for reading.

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    Today I made some scale accessories.

    I cut up some wood and made some straps, scale 2×4’s and 25mm ply

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    And a roll of gaffer tape

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    Not sure what he’s building, maybe a new shed…

    I think it looks decent, might change the wood around a bit, maybe stain or oil it as it’s looking a bit pale at the moment.

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    Very nice, loving those links, should add a good bit of weight low down.  Cool video too, very nicely filmed.

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    Thanks. Been a while since I laughed so hard at a build thread. Nice truck. Building one too so the read was relevant. Unfortunately I’m German so my thread isn’t funny. Germans take humour seriously.

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    Your first build? I’m speechless.

    Regards

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    Thanks for the kind words gents!

    You certainly got a chuckle out of me and I’ll be watching your thread carefully to see how it goes, might even comment if I’m feeling qualified 😀

    And Raven, that’s means a lot from you given your achievements, although look out, I am in fact ordering a lathe in the next few weeks 😉 maybe a mill that I have my eye on in a few months as well.

    As for the lack of content recently, I need more space for more tools and I’ve been working on making that happen, I should have an update by next weekend on the state of the shed.

    To keep things going, here’s some heat blue tests for the links I’ve been working on. Still a bit patchy but it’s an interesting process.

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    #105044
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    Bluing is wonderful. I love this subtle color. It‘s all about polishing and fatfree to avoid patches.

    Actually I‘ve blued a little knob. Only  third try is successful. The first and second I have to repolish because of little sprinkles of dust.

     

    A little making of

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    I believe the blue one is just span in a drill under 1500 wet n dry, the black-er one had the same treatment then moved over to the buffing wheel, both cleaned with break cleaner and untouched. I think my biggest problem is direct heat, I need to get a tray of brass chippings to lay the part in and heat underneath to spread it out, basically how Clickspring does it for his clock.

    I’m also looking into cold bluing fluid, not sure which one to go for yet, seems like Phillips is popular.

    That ball looks great, what was it for? Looks like it would make a nice gear knob for something quick.

    Also, that ball turning tool looks interesting, is that a homemade tool or what? I’ve never seen one like that before.

    EDIT It’s starting to look like a tool bit in an end mill holder in some kind of boring head in the tool post, am I somewhere near?

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    I’m too restless to wait on clicksprings technique. I’ve simple mount the ball in a vise and heaten it up with a big flame. But this method is too quick to stop on a declared color. May be I’ll clicksprings method at the next items.

     

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    The ball is just the end of the handlebar from my new quick change toolpost.

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    The ball tool is a kit http://www.hemingwaykits.com/acatalog/Spherical_Turning_Tool.html

    For me it was a good practice in turning and milling. My tool is not an extremly high precisioned one, but it works for just decorative knobs.

    The hemingway kits are recommendable. Actually I’m playing with this little pinion mill

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    Again a very nice practice with a lot of new challenges for me. (First challenge was to convert all the curiously imperial sizes into my familiar metrics.

    cold blueing? I only know something about cold blackening. the name gun-“blue” is irritating. It’s just black, ok,  with a fine blue glint, but its black. Nothing like a hot blued steel.

    But, if you get some informations about it, please tell me. I’m always looking on new things.

     

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    Those kits look nice! That ball turner looks ideal for the small jobs I have in mind.

    And yeah, cold bluing is black, designed for touch ups on firearms, the chemical is Selenium Dioxide. Hot bluing for guns is also black and has its own unique process where the parts are dipped first in a heated caustic wash and then into a steaming bath of ‘bluing salts’, whatever they are. Unfortunately its a bit too involved for the home shop/shed and I doubt the public can buy all the ingredients without some kind of license.

    Anyway, bit of a shed update.

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    I put another one in…

    I came to the conclusion that my parents deserved another shed in their garden, so all of their stored stuff can live free from saw dust and  metal shavings. Also, now is the time for machine tools, and I needed to build another, better bench (goodbye wobbly, crappy table)

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    This is mostly the layout, with the original bench on the bottom right.

    So, with the new shed up I spent a good day gutting ‘my’ shed of everything not workshop related.

    It’s certainly starting to feel bigger.

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    Now I need to build a lathe bench.

    Obviously a bench for any kind of machine tool needs to be fairly substantial.

    My original bench has 3×2 legs, 3×1 rails and bracing and an 18mm ply surface.

    For the new bench I have upped it to 3×3 legs, 3×2 rails and bracing and some 38mm kitchen worktop, I picked up most of what I needed yesterday, borrowed a mitre saw and cut everything to length ready to start working today.

    Some pics of the build, not too many as I had a lot to do today and its only a bench…

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    It’s certainly strong enough! You can give it a wobble but if you pay attention it’s actually the whole shed wobbling!

    I need to nip to B&Q and get some angle iron to make brackets to bolt the feet down but other than that, its ready for a lathe.

    There’s another 40″ square table going in  the corner to the left of the door, just need to get some more timber for that.

    Again, sorry for the lack of RC content, I will surely be producing a lot more once the machines are in!

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